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Did the Lightning use the Rivian Skateboard?

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I remember reading that Rivian would license its skateboard chassis - in looking at the graphics, I can't decide if Ford leveraged the Rivian chassis or not.
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Ford has said all along that the Rivian skateboard would be used for a different project, not the F-150.
 

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Ford intended to use Rivian skateboards for a Lincoln project, probably a performance EV Lincoln Aviator to go along with that brand refresh, but they scrapped it after Rivian announced their COVID delays.
 

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nope. this is the F-150 "skateboard"

Rivian R1T R1S Did the Lightning use the Rivian Skateboard? F150-EV Chassis pic2
 

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nope. this is the F-150 "skateboard"

F150-EV Chassis pic2.jpg
I agree that using the term "skateboard" is a stretch since they use the same frame for the ICE F-150.
 

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I agree that using the term "skateboard" is a stretch since they use the same frame for the ICE F-150.
We may see "skateboard" go the way of Xerox and lose it's original meaning. It may become a generic term for frame+suspension+battery that can be separated from the body.
 

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I agree that using the term "skateboard" is a stretch since they use the same frame for the ICE F-150.
I do not think it is the same frame.

They mentioned in the video last night the frame was using the strongest steel they have used so far. It also has independent rear suspension, I would not think they would have made this change if they were using the same frame as the ICE trucks.
 

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They are also using SK Innovations batteries, not Samsung.
 

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I do not think it is the same frame.

They mentioned in the video last night the frame was using the strongest steel they have used so far. It also has independent rear suspension, I would not think they would have made this change if they were using the same frame as the ICE trucks.
You may be right. I read this from the Detroit News
" he 2022 F-150 Lightning enters the EV market using the same tried-and-true three-box, ladder-frame formula that has made the gas-powered F-150 the King of Trucks for the last 44 years."
along with the estimated amount of similar parts to the ICE version and made some assumptions.

Other quotes from other news agencies make it sound like a unique frame, though.
 

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The current F150 is actually using LG batteries (reportedly with some info filched from SK).

LG was facing a 10 year ban on importing or making batteries in the US (they have two factories in the works), but it was averted with a settlement with SK. The ban had an exception for the batteries for the F150 (4 years) and ID.4 (2 years).
 

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LG was facing a 10 year ban on importing or making batteries in the US (they have two factories in the works), but it was averted with a settlement with SK. The ban had an exception for the batteries for the F150 (4 years) and ID.4 (2 years).
You have it backwards. SK was facing a ten year ban from importing until they settled with LG.
 

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The current F150 is actually using LG batteries (reportedly with some info filched from SK).

LG was facing a 10 year ban on importing or making batteries in the US (they have two factories in the works), but it was averted with a settlement with SK. The ban had an exception for the batteries for the F150 (4 years) and ID.4 (2 years).
You've got those 2 mixed up!
 

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I do not think it is the same frame.

They mentioned in the video last night the frame was using the strongest steel they have used so far. It also has independent rear suspension, I would not think they would have made this change if they were using the same frame as the ICE trucks.
They are. They use the same platform (T1) on the Expedition as the F-150 but the Expedition has independent rear suspension. It’s not unreasonable for them to use the same frame for an IRS F-150, maybe even the exact Expedition frame.
 

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Who knew. DucRider is a completely unreliable source of information. ;)
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