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Hi everyone,

I’ve been following this thread and watching countless YouTube videos, and one thing keeps standing out—it seems like the size and weight of a travel trailer doesn't impact range as much as I originally thought, especially when towing at 60 mph. Most of the range numbers I’m seeing still seem to fall between 0.90 to 1.3 miles per kWh, for sizes the sizes I'm looking at.

I’m currently trying to find the right balance between livability and range, and I’ve narrowed it down to two options:
  • 24-foot trailer, 4,800 lbs dry weight
  • 30-foot trailer, 5,800 lbs dry weight
I was really hoping that by downsizing and compromising on space, I’d gain around 50 extra miles of range. But based on everything I’m seeing, it looks like wind resistance and speed have a much bigger impact than weight—especially when cruising at 60 mph with little to no traffic.

Am I thinking about this correctly? I’m planning to pull the trigger on the 24-foot trailer this week, but I’m doing one final round of research to make sure I’m setting the right expectations around range.

Thanks in advance for any advice or personal experience you can share! This thread has been incredibly helpful for me as a first-time travel trailer buyer.

For reference: I’m towing with a 2024 Rivian R1S Quad Motor with the Large Pack.
Yes your thinking is correct. I sold an e-pro 15tb and bought a geo-pro 20fbs. The 2 trailers have identical frontal area and shape, but 20fbs is 6 feet longer and ~ 1k heavier. After over 5k miles towing each, the efficiency is essentially identical, 1.03 miles/kWh for the 15tb, and 1.02 miles/kWh for the 20fbs.
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Yes your thinking is correct. I sold an e-pro 15tb and bought a geo-pro 20fbs. The 2 trailers have identical frontal area and shape, but 20fbs is 6 feet longer and ~ 1k heavier. After over 5k miles towing each, the efficiency is essentially identical, 1.03 miles/kWh for the 15tb, and 1.02 miles/kWh for the 20fbs.
Thank you—that’s exactly what I was hoping to confirm! It really helps to hear from someone who’s done real-world comparisons. Sounds like I can confidently select a trailer that better fits my lifestyle and livability needs, rather than compromising on space just for the sake of saving weight—especially if the aero profile is similar. Appreciate you sharing your experience!
 

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You will exceed the R1S rated capacities but it probably won’t kill you. That trailer will weigh ~6500lbs leaving the factory plus whatever you add (clothes, dishes, beer, etc) with a tongue weight ~850lbs. Add the WDH (50lbs) and the family (850lbs) with a ~1600lb payload and you’re over the limit. Not the end of the world and people do it everyday without even realizing but something to consider.
I have heard that in case of an accident, being over weight limit can be a factor in liability and fault determination.
 

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Thank you—that’s exactly what I was hoping to confirm! It really helps to hear from someone who’s done real-world comparisons. Sounds like I can confidently select a trailer that better fits my lifestyle and livability needs, rather than compromising on space just for the sake of saving weight—especially if the aero profile is similar. Appreciate you sharing your experience!
Yeah, we had the same experience moving from a 22' airstream to a 30' airstream. Mostly drag via cross section. There is some difference in the mountains but I'd say just figure out what matters on your lifestyle and livability as you said.

For us, we went to 30' so we have enough space to work from the trailer on extended trips. Some time on vacation/exploring and a lot of time still working. Got one with an office and, realistically, 30' and 22' feel like night and day for interior space if you are in at it all day.

That said if you are just using it as a base camp during vacations where most of the day is spent hiking, exploring, or what not with the trailer mostly used for meals and evenings then the 22' was perfect. This nice thing about the 22' is you pretty much never have to detach to charge and it fits everywhere. Pretty easy to maneuver in tight parking lots and such. Although you get pretty fast at detaching and reattaching.
 

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Yeah, we had the same experience moving from a 22' airstream to a 30' airstream. Mostly drag via cross section. There is some difference in the mountains but I'd say just figure out what matters on your lifestyle and livability as you said.

For us, we went to 30' so we have enough space to work from the trailer on extended trips. Some time on vacation/exploring and a lot of time still working. Got one with an office and, realistically, 30' and 22' feel like night and day for interior space if you are in at it all day.

That said if you are just using it as a base camp during vacations where most of the day is spent hiking, exploring, or what not with the trailer mostly used for meals and evenings then the 22' was perfect. This nice thing about the 22' is you pretty much never have to detach to charge and it fits everywhere. Pretty easy to maneuver in tight parking lots and such. Although you get pretty fast at detaching and reattaching.
So your MPK was about the same with the longer rig? My dad keeps telling me to go bigger, definitely not the 16' and even 23' would feel small. If the MPK is the same, I may upgrade. I might end up using it for daily living for a couple years when not deployed.
 

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So your MPK was about the same with the longer rig? My dad keeps telling me to go bigger, definitely not the 16' and even 23' would feel small. If the MPK is the same, I may upgrade. I might end up using it for daily living for a couple years when not deployed.
Yeah, almost identical.
 

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Yeah, almost identical.
Ok last question, for you and the group.

What tires are y'all using when towing? I'd definitely want at least 116 load index, didn't know if a beefier one is needed. I've seen people towing with the 21", so I imagine it really helps with range.
 

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So your MPK was about the same with the longer rig? My dad keeps telling me to go bigger, definitely not the 16' and even 23' would feel small. If the MPK is the same, I may upgrade. I might end up using it for daily living for a couple years when not deployed.
I lived in the 20’ trailer I posted pictures of here earlier between deployments for two years. Boondocked in base training areas during the work week and went to state parks on the weekends. If you can compress your daily belongs down to what fits in 160sqft it’s more than enough space for comfortable living.
 

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I lived in the 20’ trailer I posted pictures of here earlier between deployments for two years. Boondocked in base training areas during the work week and went to state parks on the weekends. If you can compress your daily belongs down to what fits in 160sqft it’s more than enough space for comfortable living.
A couple cutters would give me my own stateroom, shared head, but it's nice to have a space to get away. I remember some crusty old CWOs geo'ing, bopping between their stateroom and an RV in the extended storage lot. But our bases are way more lax on that than what I've seen on Navy or army bases.
 
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Ok last question, for you and the group.

What tires are y'all using when towing? I'd definitely want at least 116 load index, didn't know if a beefier one is needed. I've seen people towing with the 21", so I imagine it really helps with range.
I tow with the OEM tires that come with the 21" wheels.

Which reminds me, I should get my next tire rotation scheduled (just about to break 10k miles)...
 

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Ok last question, for you and the group.

What tires are y'all using when towing? I'd definitely want at least 116 load index, didn't know if a beefier one is needed. I've seen people towing with the 21", so I imagine it really helps with range.
I started out towing with the Perelli all terrains, when they wore out I replaced them with Cooper all terrains that are heavier and have a higher load rating with no noticeable reduction in efficiency.
 

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Hey there! That's a fantastic camper restoration! Mind sharing what kind of mi/kwh you are getting towing it and what's the weight? I'm looking at a 1977 Trillium, 13', project. Thanks!
 

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We had planned on renting different campers this summer but came across this used Intech Sol Horizon and pulled the trigger a few weeks ago. Our first night camping will be this weekend - just one night to check everything out and see what we need to add/change. Maybe I'll have some better camping-oriented photos to share then. Efficiency-wise, we're getting 1.37 mi/kWh after 199 miles.

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We had planned on renting different campers this summer but came across this used Intech Sol Horizon and pulled the trigger a few weeks ago. Our first night camping will be this weekend - just one night to check everything out and see what we need to add/change. Maybe I'll have some better camping-oriented photos to share then. Efficiency-wise, we're getting 1.37 mi/kWh after 199 miles.

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What is your efficiency like on those Pirelli ATs not towing?
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