captainjp
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That’s a good one. ? Very cleverThey did it. They made an ice cream truck without ICE
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That’s a good one. ? Very cleverThey did it. They made an ice cream truck without ICE
I just wonder how Ford and Mercedes are able to make electric delivery vans that are both cheaper and have more range? Maybe because they’re producing on a larger scale?Wikipedia says that the EDV has the same 135kWh battery as the large pack on the original R1, although they mention a transition to an undefined LFP battery.
One of the biggest challenges with electrified transport is that the energy needs increase rapidly as vehicle size increases. The same battery that gives an R1 ~300 miles of range gives an EDV roughly half the same range. Battery size and costs go up pretty rapidly.
Nope. Rivian sold more vans than the eSprinter and eTransit combined last year.I just wonder how Ford and Mercedes are able to make electric delivery vans that are both cheaper and have more range? Maybe because they’re producing on a larger scale?
That’s great! I’m glad Rivian is getting those EDVs out there. The range must be sufficient for some businesses. I’d love to see them sell a consumer version with more range in the future. You know for the van life folks. ?Nope. Rivian sold more vans than the eSprinter and eTransit combined last year.
https://insideevs.com/news/747497/rivian-van-outsold-ford-etransit-mercedes-esprinter-2024/
There could be economies of scale for the underlying shared-platforms of the other vans with their ICE counterparts, but probably not enough to account for it.
The other possibility is that the other brands are selling purposefully at a loss for CO2 credits or other reasons, while Rivian is charging enough to actually cover the cost.
The overwhelming majority of commercial vans drive less than 100 miles a day.That’s great! I’m glad Rivian is getting those EDVs out there. The range must be sufficient for some businesses. I’d love to see them sell a consumer version with more range in the future. You know for the van life folks. ?
Briefly thought you said you wanted to know how many bjs it took to purchase one (because I was up for the task).Curious how many B&J are going to purchase. These make so much sense for the food trucks.
I'd just drop a few bricks of dry-ice in the freezer to cut down the power usage.The range will be even lower if the battery is powering that giant freezer!
The range of the EDV's was specifically laid out by Amazon when Rivian was designing the vans. It was designed for the average driver to do their route on a single charge. Most delivery drivers drive only 50mi a day, but it's a lot of stop-and-go driving. That's why the vans were designed this way.Hm… that’s true. I really am surprised that these have such low range for the price.
Makes sense. I guess I was just hoping it would be a viable vehicle for personal use as well.The range of the EDV's was specifically laid out by Amazon when Rivian was designing the vans. It was designed for the average driver to do their route on a single charge. Most delivery drivers drive only 50mi a day, but it's a lot of stop-and-go driving. That's why the vans were designed this way.