GVWR, gross vehicle weight rating, is the maximum (gross) weight your vehicle is rated for. Pretty straight forward. It's likely the same across all platforms and based on the frame/suspension, nothing to do with motors or curb weight.
The GVWR is calculated by the manufacturer based on the 'weakest link' of the chassis/suspension/wheels/etc. The important bits probably don't change between DM and QM so they both have the same GVWR.
Thanks, updated. Highest payload I've seenPayload is 1792 lbs for a Dual Motor R1T Large Pack, 21" stock tires, no spare, no tonneau, no skid plate.
I didn't see this in the table in the original message, so thought I would contribute the info.
Have you had a chance to tow your trailer with the R1T? What sort of efficiency are you able to achieve?Edit: added photo of tow rig and gear in the truck.
Thanks for contributing! Pretty awesome you were able to get similar payload as my config, but you have the Max pack and underbody shield.Dual Motor Max Pack with underbody shield. No tonneau, no spare.
Damn that's a nice setup! What did your payload end up being?f And no issues towing? I've got a smaller AS as well.I've been combing through forum posts and Facebook groups for a few hours to collate the various payload values I was seeing. I've put my table below with links to sources. If you have additional information, please post the payload sticker in the thread and I'll add it to the table. Hope this helps others out there! (background on why I care below)
R1T Quad motor / Large pack
(Weights in lbs)
Config Spare? Skid plate? Powered Tonneau? GVWR Payload Curb (calc) Source 20" AT Y Y Y Link 20" AT N Y Y Link 20" AT Y N ? Link 20" AT N N Y Link 20" AT N N N Link 21" AS Y N Y FBook group link (can't link post directly) 21" AS Y Y N Link 21" AS N N Y Link 22" AS Y Y Y Link 22" AS Y N ? Link 22" AS N N N
Options weights (based on late '22 and early '23 Quad/Large configs):
20" spare + jack = 95 lbs
21" spare + jack? = 80 lbs (calc from above is 80 lbs, but R website lists it as 79 lbs)
22" spare + jack = 83 lbs (from Rivian's website; no definitive calc yet)
skid plate = 140 lbs
tonneau =072 lbs (seems they HAVE NOT included the removal of the powered tonneau in payload rating, at least for recent trucks, late 2022)
Update Mar 13/23: based on post 33 from today, it appears that they are now accounting for removal of the tonneau in the payload sticker, and that the tonneau assembly is approx. 90 lbs.
Update Sep 8/23: based on my post from today, the math looks more like 72 lbs for the powered tonneau for my May 2023 build. I calculated against two different trucks and it lines up.
R1T - Dual motor / Large pack
(Weights in lbs)
Config Spare? Shield? Tonneau? GVWR Payload Calc. Curb Weight Source 20" N N N 1770 Link and link 21" N N N 8532 1792 6740 Link
R1T - Dual motor / Max pack
(Weight in lbs)
Config Spare? Shield? Tonneau? GVWR Payload Calc. Curb Weight Source 20" N Y N 8532 1594 6938 Link 21" N N N 1748 Link 21" R1S N N N/A 8532 1779 6753 Link
Major Edit: Oct 2/23: added table for R1T Dual Motor Large and Max packs - changed title of thread to reflect.
From the few points of data we have now, it appears the Max pack weighs about 40 lbs more than the Large pack.
Background for our use case:
We are a family of four, with two rapidly growing teen boys. We mountain bike, climb, paddle, hike, etc. So, whenever we do a road trip, we tend to have a fair amount of gear with us (check out one of my blog posts, scroll down to the photos).
We also bought a travel trailer last year, an Airstream Flying Cloud 20FB with a dry weight of ~4,200 lbs, GVWR of 5,000 lbs and tongue weight of about 680 lbs. After multiple trips with the trailer (>30 nights last year), with varying amounts of outdoor gear, weighing it almost every trip, we have found that we often have the trailer almost at GVWR, and the tongue weight at about 650lbs after factoring in the weight-distribution hitch. Our truck has been from around 200lbs under the GVWR to basically right at GVWR (2010 Honda Ridgeline), and it has a payload rating of 1575lbs.
So! I am concerned about the advertised payloads I've been seeing for the R1T, and that is only for the Large pack thus far, and we have a reservation for a Max pack.
Edit: added photo of tow rig and gear in the truck.
Edit: Sep 18/23
As you can see below, we ended up buying an R1T, a 2023 Quad/Large, May build. No spare, tonneau, or underbody shield. Highest payload 20" I've seen, since the tonneau weight is no longer included in the payload sticker. Tows the trailer beautifully!
1631lbs - tows great! Getting about 1.25 m/kWh so far around 60 mph. More trips upcoming in July/Aug and will track data more.
