Can I get the option to replace the charging port on my upcoming R1S with the Tesla's North American Charging Standard (NACS) port?

[COdogman]

Let’s not forget that TESLA decided THEIR design should be called the “North American standard”. So every time the letters NACS are used it should just say TESLA. Yes, it would have been great if all the manufacturers got together and agreed on ONE North American standard, but that ship has sailed.

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[SANZC02]

If Rivian doesn’t offer it as an option hopefully after market can come in and fix it…. Teslas charge just fine on CCS connectors when you find stations that work. The NACS connector on a Rivian would be a huge upgrade that Rivian or aftermarket could turn a profit on.

Not sure what you mean here. Tesla does not support CCS in the US without a specific adapter that works with some of the newer Tesla vehicles but not most of the older ones.

 

[Grabs10]

Not sure what you mean here. Tesla does not support CCS in the US without a specific adapter that works with some of the newer Tesla vehicles but not most of the older ones.

Yes Tesla’s work on CCS. So a Rivian with a much better connector as the NACS installed at the factory would work with an adapter when needing to charge on a CCS. NACS to CCS adapters are easily attainable. I have one

 

[emoore]

Yes Tesla’s work on CCS. So a Rivian with a much better connector as the NACS installed at the factory would work with an adapter when needing to charge on a CCS. NACS to CCS adapters are easily attainable. I have one

Well in that case why wouldn’t you just get a CCS to Tesla adapter? I’m sure Tesla can make one if they want.

 

[Grabs10]

Cause despite what ever feelings people have about Tesla it is the only reliable nation wide charging solution that doesn’t require musical parking spots to charge while road tripping providing for a more relaxed worry free road trip experience. NACS is a much more elegant system and way more reliable.

Rivian could up charge to a NACS port and I think it would be a big seller. I’m sure a Tesla super charger could be activate relatively easy from an app to start charging.

 

[Dark-Fx]

The NACS connector on a Rivian would be a huge upgrade that Rivian or aftermarket could turn a profit on.

Upgrade how exactly? Sounds like a waste of money to me. There's no problem with CCS.

Let’s not forget that TESLA decided THEIR design should be called the “North American standard”. So every time the letters NACS are used it should just say TESLA. Yes, it would have been great if all the manufacturers got together and agreed on ONE North American standard, but that ship has sailed.

I hereby rename it to the NADS connector. North American Dubious Standard.

 

[SANZC02]

Cause despite what ever feelings people have about Tesla it is the only reliable nation wide charging solution that doesn’t require musical parking spots to charge while road tripping providing for a more relaxed worry free road trip experience. NACS is a much more elegant system and way more reliable.

Rivian could up charge to a NACS port and I think it would be a big seller. I’m sure a Tesla super charger could be activate relatively easy from an app to start charging.

You seem to be missing the part about even with an adapter the Tesla Super Chargers in the US are not open to other manufacturers. The only way they work is by communicating with the Tesla.

Currently even if you had an adapter to plug in you would not be able to initiate a charging session.

They are talking about opening the network up but they have not yet and probably won’t for awhile.

Edit: The other issue is regions where Tesla’s are plentiful, like California, there are often lines waiting for a charger to open. Allowing other vehicles to charge there will only cause longer wait times.

In a perfect world the Rivian RAN gets fully rolled out, EA and EV GO expand and work on up time, and Tesla develops an adapter and opens their network to others so that chargers become as plentiful as gas pumps.

 

[Grabs10]

You seem to be missing the part about even with an adapter the Tesla Super Chargers in the US are not open to other manufacturers. The only way they work is by communicating with the Tesla.

Currently even if you had an adapter to plug in you would not be able to initiate a charging session.

They are talking about opening the network up but they have not yet and probably won’t for awhile.

Edit: The other issue is regions where Tesla’s are plentiful, like California, there are often lines waiting for a charger to open. Allowing other vehicles to charge there will only cause longer wait times.

In a perfect world the Rivian RAN gets fully rolled out, EA and EV GO expand and work on up time, and Tesla develops an adapter and opens their network to others so that chargers become as plentiful as gas pumps.

When Tesla opens their network it will be easy to initiate a charge. Not a big deal. So when Aptera releases their vehicle with the NACS you don’t think they will be able to charge on the supercharger network?

 

[Dark-Fx]

So when Aptera releases their vehicle with the NACS you don’t think they will be able to charge on the supercharger network?

Aptera has a deal with Tesla that they will be able to use it. It's kind of a moot point anyway, Aptera won't be delivering many cars, if any, next year.

 

[CharonPDX]

Can't fault Tesla for trying to slip this one through but it's a terrible use of government money to subsidize Tesla chargers.

And Elongated Muskrat *JUST* replied to Biden a couple days ago complaining about government spending on chargers!

 

[Dark-Fx]

And Elongated Muskrat *JUST* replied to Biden a couple days ago complaining about government spending on chargers!

He's complained about the change to the tax credits as well. Anything that has a potential for helping his competitors more than him, he is against. CCS needs more help than Tesla so he should be against the entire program from a business standpoint. From a standpoint of wanting to save the world though? He should be all for it. The fact that he's not is very telling.

 

[CharonPDX]

From a standpoint of wanting to save the world though? He should be all for it. The fact that he's not is very telling.

Yep. Early on, he said his goal at Tesla was to electrify transportation, even if Tesla didn't exist as a company at the end.

 

[Grabs10]

Aptera has a deal with Tesla that they will be able to use it. It's kind of a moot point anyway, Aptera won't be delivering many cars, if any, next year.

They are using it cause Tesla opened its connector up.

 

[COdogman]

Even if they do open it up to Aptera (probably the reward for backing Tesla and allowing federal $ to flow), it’s not like there will ever be a traffic jam of Apteras vs Teslas at a supercharger, or at any other charger for that matter.

Things you are more likely to see in the wild than an Aptera:

 

[Dark-Fx]

They are using it cause Tesla opened its connector up.

They were always going to use it. Tesla just made it easier for them. Using the Telsa supercharging stations will still require some kind of a deal with Tesla. Just having the connector, today, which anyone can do without permission from Tesla, is not adequate to get access to the supercharger network.

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