Zoidz
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But will it still come with the bulletproof/shatterproof windows that EVERYONE needs???
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Yes, but they haven't visibly taken any steps between those things yet. "Supply Chain issues" is a cop out when you don't even have a pre-production truck.I'm far from a Tesla fan, but let's be fair. There's a HUGE gulf between "They have a production version ready" and "It is completely vaporware and will never happen". I'd expect the final outcome to land somewhere between those extremes.
Does every step have to be visible? Or what about the recent leaked shots that showed a CT with slightly different proportions (yes, and that silly wiper).Yes, but they haven't visibly taken any steps between those things yet. "Supply Chain issues" is a cop out when you don't even have a pre-production truck.
Don't forget the Adaptive Suspension...But will it still come with the bulletproof/shatterproof windows that EVERYONE needs???
I'm just looking at history. This fits the track record of the semi, Solar City, the Vegas Loop, Starship, and countless other broken promises.I'm sorry, but this screams much more like having a grudge or axe to grind than any meaningful commentary.
Absolutely agree it won't the same as advertised, it could be smaller, having larger side mirrors, crazy mega wiper, less aggressive tires/wheels, not as advertised power, range, the list can go on and on. But the huge demand for whatever it may end up being will still be thereDemand is over a theoretical product. I have extreme doubts that Tesla will be able to pull it off as advertised.
Same can be said about their model 3, it took waaay longer than expected, but it happened. The segment demand is huge, and the reservations indicates it as well. What is questionable is that people and article writers think CT is vaporware, they have a market capitalization more than some of the auto manufacturers combined.It was supposed to be in production two years ago. When the very first Rivian prototypes were ready, they ran them across South America. Thus far, we have seen no demo of the CT beyond driving fans around on the street at the debut.
If this is a real truck what ON EARTH are they doing? No off-road demos. No preview tests. No rallies. Nothing but some drone footage of their test track. They should at least have a more finalized prototype by now. That doesn't require a manufacturing plant. It should have been done years ago.
It's a vapor product.
wow, yeah, i agree, you sound soooo bitter against Tesla, like a personal grudge.... sounds like they broke some promises to you, like personally...I'm just looking at history. This fits the track record of the semi, Solar City, the Vegas Loop, Starship, and countless other broken promises.
But sure, this time will be different.
Maybe I'm wrong but Nikola has delivered more electric semi-trucks than Tesla has.Absolutely agree it won't the same as advertised, it could be smaller, having larger side mirrors, crazy mega wiper, less aggressive tires/wheels, not as advertised power, range, the list can go on and on. But the huge demand for whatever it may end up being will still be there
Same can be said about their model 3, it took waaay longer than expected, but it happened. The segment demand is huge, and the reservations indicates it as well. What is questionable is that people and article writers think CT is vaporware, they have a market capitalization more than some of the auto manufacturers combined.
Who knows what their delays may be, adding more technology (4 wheel steering, or whatever else), more software (I'd say they are the best in the EV business), more patents, battery, supply, parts, getting rid of their mega wiper, finalizing xyz. If this was Nikola, then I'd agree, it's vaporware, but I hardly think it's vaporware
Not against Tesla. I think it's a good company. But Elon is a con man. Sorry, but history backs me up. Tesla will do fine, probably better, once he's gone.wow, yeah, i agree, you sound soooo bitter against Tesla, like a personal grudge.... sounds like they broke some promises to you, like personally...
Rivian's team better be doing more than dreaming. I expect they have a master plan, just like Tesla 15 years ago. With $TSLA at $1.1 trillion, and $RIVN at $0.078 trillion : ) … both companies have wildly inflated market caps that are all but impossible to justify by building cars any time soon. I assume they are both, like BYD, and unlike "burn stuff" car makers, plan on being energy companies (building factories to make batteries for vehicles, homes and grids.)RJ goes to bed at night dreaming that Rivian will be 75% of what Tesla already is, right?
I don't like Tesla but Rivian doesn't exist if Tesla hadn't paved the way.
I'm with ya. I don't have anything against Tesla or Musk for that matter, and I'll stop short of calling him a con man because I respect a lot of the stuff he has done. But if you take an objective look at him overall, he can be a mix of PT Barnum, The Wizard Oz, and David Blaine and therefore his own worst enemy.Not against Tesla. I think it's a good company. But Elon is a con man. Sorry, but history backs me up. Tesla will do fine, probably better, once he's gone.
I haven't seen this picture, thats one ugly looking piece of metal on wheels...Don't forget the Adaptive Suspension...
In a world of terrible analogies, this is really one of the worst.And Apple would't exist if ENIAC hadn't paved the way. How many people have one of those at home?