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This. Latency in the UI has gotten kind of ridiculous. Change tabs/apps, slow AF. Hit the climate button and it takes 2-3s before the climate panel pops up. Used to be much more snappy. Touch sensitivity in the button bar on the bottom isn't fantastic either...maybe the touch targets are too small?

Edit: I must use the climate panel fairly infrequently and its memory must be getting garbage collected semi-frequently. Messing with the climate panel after work and after the first time accessing it, subsequent taps were within 1s.
My strong suspicion is that they're running at the razor's edge of what they can hold in memory, and the dashcam may be a big part of what is holding things up. So lots of things are getting paged away that used to be kept in memory. Things slowed down noticably when dashcam was introduced and have gotten worse over the past six months or so.

Tesla did the same thing (although at least on my 2020 Model Y, Tesla's dashcam situation is way worse). These vehicles just did not have the compute headroom for their infotainment ambitions. (Maybe Gen2 is better?)

I'm also at least a little suspicious that there's a lot of web UI at play here usually implies poorly optimized React soup, but that's just a hunch.
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My strong suspicion is that they're running at the razor's edge of what they can hold in memory, and the dashcam may be a big part of what is holding things up. So lots of things are getting paged away that used to be kept in memory. Things slowed down noticably when dashcam was introduced and have gotten worse over the past six months or so.

Tesla did the same thing (although at least on my 2020 Model Y, Tesla's dashcam situation is way worse). These vehicles just did not have the compute headroom for their infotainment ambitions. (Maybe Gen2 is better?)

I'm also at least a little suspicious that there's a lot of web UI at play here usually implies poorly optimized React soup, but that's just a hunch.

but if you look at it seems that they arenā€™t actually utilizing all the RAM? timestamp around 26 minutes in.
 

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but if you look at it seems that they arenā€™t actually utilizing all the RAM? timestamp around 26 minutes in.
Probably because they seem overly-aggressive in unloading stuff that hasn't been used recently. I watched that video a few days ago as well as the one on the Gen2 hardware changes. IIRC, they indicated that the infotainment computer for Gen2 was more or less the same as the Gen1 computer. They really only changed the ADAS computer with something like 10x the capability of Gen1.
 

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Itā€™s the junior varsity software team. We need some high caliber coders to squash the memory leaks and code for efficiency. Do I actually know this? No. Just a suspicion.
 

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I get my entertainment from driving my R1T. All the gee whiz entertainment stuff, other than Apple Music, which adds to my driving experience, just doesnā€™t do much for me. I canā€™t see myself sitting around and watching video content on my center display. I get a kink in my neck just thinking about it. I get way more than enough screen time when Iā€™m at home. My R1T is my escape from all that.

On the other hand, I still think there is room for improvement on the performance end. Things like fine tuning the suspension (especially the rear suspension), adjusting throttle pedal feel, allowing for even more driver selectable performance options, working on efficiency improvements, reducing vampire drain, etc., etc. would mean way more to me. Unfortunately, Iā€™m afraid that Rivian may be shifting it focus away from the Gen 1 trucks and moving on to the latest iterations.
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Itā€™s the junior varsity software team. We need some high caliber coders to squash the memory leaks and code for efficiency. Do I actually know this? No. Just a suspicion.
wonder how many of the senior/top tier coders are working on the VW JV?
 

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Bug fixes and removal of Christmas Jingle šŸŽ„. Sorry, no Carplay...
 

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My only issue is they don't have release notes on newly released to testing updates. They used to post almost immediately so we could all be informed. Never makes anyone happy as it's always missing/including something the peanut gallery wants/dislikes but I liked seeing it.

We own two static vehicles in our family fleet that will NEVER see anything change in any system ever through an over the air update. Anything that make my Rivian & Telsa addedfeateures/better/upgraded is perfectly fine with me.
 

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My only issue is they don't have release notes on newly released to testing updates. They used to post almost immediately so we could all be informed. Never makes anyone happy as it's always missing/including something the peanut gallery wants/dislikes but I liked seeing it.

We own two static vehicles in our family fleet that will NEVER see anything change in any system ever through an over the air update. Anything that make my Rivian & Telsa addedfeateures/better/upgraded is perfectly fine with me.
Things are added and removed throughout the testing cycle of an update. Imagine how many more people would complain when something was deleted at the last minute that was included in the release notes. I was dead serious with my above post... big fixes and no jimgle... nothing significant is coming..
 

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@R1Tom and anyone else who is curious - this is what the driver screen visualization looks like as of 2024.47.30 on Gen 2

With parked cars on the side of the road:


At a stop light:


Don't mind the Suspension Error
 

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@R1Tom and anyone else who is curious - this is what the driver screen visualization looks like as of 2024.47.30 on Gen 2

With parked cars on the side of the road:


At a stop light:


Don't mind the Suspension Error
That does look nice and smooth!
 

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People's observations are making this all hard to decipher...

On one hand you are indicating G2 visuals are much improved.

Yet other poster with G2 says latency is a concern where my G1 works very well with minimal latency?

I thought the G2 processing power would have made the G2 super snappy in all aspects...but if G2 are observing latency issues and I am not in my G1....then it must be optimization issues...right? That some of what Rivian has done so far has been more optimized for G1 maybe?

I am just confused by the conflicting observations being reported.
I kind of ignore reports about slow processing. Most of it is a seat of their pants feel, hard to say if it is a caching problem, perception problem, or both but without having a real way to test and quantify the results what may seem slow to some is fine for others.

Iā€™m convinced I have a Unicorn as my screens work fine, my PaaK works fine, my vampire drain has never been an issue, my 22s donā€™t shake and I will get over 30k on them. Not sure where my luck came from but happy it did.

PS - Had my fingers crossed and knocked on wood as I typed that last paragraph. šŸ˜‰
 

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I kind of ignore reports about slow processing. Most of it is a seat of their pants feel, hard to say if it is a caching problem, perception problem, or both but without having a real way to test and quantify the results what may seem slow to some is fine for others.

Iā€™m convinced I have a Unicorn as my screens work fine, my PaaK works fine, my vampire drain has never been an issue, my 22s donā€™t shake and I will get over 30k on them. Not sure where my luck came from but happy it did.

PS - Had my fingers crossed and knocked on wood as I typed that last paragraph. šŸ˜‰
You and me both....so two unicorns. Mine all works great too. 20's and no shake...no pull....no appreciable vamp drain....paak mostly works(just wish it would lock quicker as I walk away)...all at 54k and going on 3 years.

I just went in garage to knock on the wood dash!
 

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My only issue is they don't have release notes on newly released to testing updates. They used to post almost immediately so we could all be informed. Never makes anyone happy as it's always missing/including something the peanut gallery wants/dislikes but I liked seeing it.
Who is "they"?
Rivian publishes the release notes when they publish the release.
If you see release notes before the official release, that's not official - that is riviantrackr.com publishing the notes from a pre-release version of the software.
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