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  1. How much for annual registration?

    ā€œI'm not sure I fully understand your point here - is it that you disagree with using tax dollars to fund good public schools and affordable healthcare access?ā€ my point does not depend on me specifying which point of your list I disagree with.My point is we differ on where and how tax dollars...
  2. How much for annual registration?

    Iā€™m not convinced about everything on your list. The thing about the power to tax is that itā€™s very effective at convincing people like me to pay for things with which they disagree. the result is a system that gets to experiment at a larger scale. Sometimes it results in good things like Mars...
  3. How much for annual registration?

    Here in IL, where these things are being built, I still donā€™t know if itā€™s going to be plated as a ā€œbā€ truck or an EV. knowing Illinois they will try to double tax it as both.
  4. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    Nah. Even with a paint job, Iā€™m not buying.
  5. The Rivian Demographic??

    Better handling in adverse conditions, which contributes to driver safety. better performance enables more aggressive drivers to engage in maneuvers that shave time off drives, or thrill seekers that love to stomp on the accelerator. better reliability appeals to the long term (20+ year)...
  6. Living Off Grid

    The best use of solar on a car is ventilation in the hot summer sun.
  7. How much for annual registration?

    Here in Chicago, I pay $7.50 each way when I go to the city from the suburbs. Thereā€™s subsidies, but none of them are enumerated in my tax bills. Presumably the taxes flow from property taxes through state/local/fed to railroads, but I have no idea how much the total I pay for it really is. At...
  8. Tesla Truck Unveiling 11/21

    So same studies Iā€™ve seen. best one Iā€™ve read so far is here: https://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/19457/Is-my-Electric-Vehicle-Really-Green.aspx Does a good job of factoring in regional effects and references some data on battery carbon burden.
  9. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    An insightful article that identifies some of the problems of a stainless steel body. Weā€™ve identified a few points in our conversations here. This article discusses some of the problems involved in repairing the DMC-12 stainless steel body as a point of comparison for the CT stainless steel...
  10. Battery Pack configuration & Estimations

    sure. We start by assuming the battery works. Then, using physics, work backwards to deduce how it works. Iā€™d neglected to consider thermal mass. Math is fun!
  11. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    Not a Tesla spy. Donā€™t like Teslaā€™s engineering process or what it does to people (glass door et Al). Donā€™t like his over emotional pt-Barnum style publicity. don't like premature rollout of features ( summon) without adequate risk assessment and mitigation. Wonā€™t consider a Tesla until it...
  12. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    well said. Nailed it.
  13. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    [ 146k $100 refundable reservations is no joke there are other no joke stats. Neither are 10.000 $1000 reservations from amazon are a joke. Nor are the unquantified preorders from rivian R1T nor is the dip in Teslaā€™s stock that followed the reveal of the CT. I think the price point is...
  14. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    guinea pigs that I expect will be treated VERY well. At least if they paid attention to Toyotaā€™s successful roll out of the Prius, et al. Treat early adopters right, they become fanboys, advocates, evangelists, champions, and/or and promoters. Treat them badly and they become trolls.
  15. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    I didnā€™t miss your point. You want to separate aesthetics and safety from the rest of the conversation because there are other points worth discussing, and they are getting eclipsed, not just here, but across the net. This is, as you know, the market in action. Perhaps the storm will pass, and...
  16. Tesla Truck Unveiling 11/21

    Anyone want to take a stab at what the carbon payback time is for an EV? Iā€™ve seen some studies, and I recall that the carbon payback is region dependant, and on the order of 5 years.
  17. Tesla Truck Unveiling 11/21

    I would be absolutely shocked if they did, but Iā€™ll admit the possibility. It really depends on how much concept development and market research preceded the concept car, and how well they understand the target market. Since I have a very negative reaction to the aesthetics, I am clearly not...
  18. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    Prototype is different than concept. Concepts are for exploration of new ideas. Prototypes are intended for formal testing. Still may be splitting hairs here. No. But this back end isnā€™t a cap. Itā€™s more like a trunk. Which imho makes it more of a hatchback or SUV. But ultimately the state...
  19. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    We know very little about the trim level differences. Most of the cost of these vehicles is outside the battery. 100kWh = 14000 now, and 10,000 in 2022 assuming the current market trend continues to reduce cost per kWh 18% per year. Rivians skateboard design. Is mass production ready, and...
  20. Rivian vs. Cybertruck

    on what basis do we do that? itā€™s 25% more than rivians range. However this is concept car vs production prototype. So, not really apples to apples. We need to compare CD and battery capacity, and those arenā€™t published yet. but guessing capacities between two trucks are comparable. If CD is...


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