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  1. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Ah ha, so it does have fog lights—or turn signal, or turn signal and fog combo. Maybe fog lights will be integrated into headlights (honestly don't feel like I ever had to have them on). Or, fog lights will be at-cost options. Slimmer light bar may not look like a cost saving (new moulds)...
  2. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Indeed. Spin forging from ingots, then CNC, then paint, then more CNC to get the machined raw AL features, then clear coat (or tinted clear in case of the darks). Same process as these really but these are likely to use less AL.
  3. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    An evolution of, not identical. Can't conclude/project the same take rate. Plus, since these appear have less material, might be cheaper to source/produce. And as someone else pointed out, these may very well be the base/standard offerings, to help up sale to pricier alternatives. Remember...
  4. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    Level 3 extension cable?

    While I agree, but the way charging sites are now (leased portion of existing mall lots rather than dedicated parcels like gas stations), builders and networks have to respect and work with what exists there. It isn't always possible to make them all pull throughs. Plus, current charging times...
  5. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Probably. I can't stand band-aid-like tchotchkes. But to each his own. I didn't either, from what was shown through the online configurator, until I saw the dark version in person for the first time. But, ultimately, could not bring myself to spend more on a design that can get scratched...
  6. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    Pickup tomorrow - no guide yet!

    Yah, some people still have guides in your account/app. Some have just Customer Service contact. It's probably a situation that hasn't been fully fleshed out.
  7. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Oh come on, it's not that bad. If you look at the new wheels next to the OG 20" dark/light, you can clearly see it's just an evolution—more open and simplified with less material. Probably lighter and slightly more efficient too. Besides, all this belly aching over what is new... it's not like...
  8. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    Pickup tomorrow - no guide yet!

    They may still be called guides, but the organizational structure is different now. Your "guide" may actually just be another customer service generalist or service center staff. All we know is the whole "guide" system as we knew has changed. What is new exactly, is unknown.
  9. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    Rivian Scale Model Cars Coming Soon 😉

    1:43 scale, under 150% larger than the Hotwheels. To have that level of detail, and being this faithul to exterior appearance, you would not like the price. IMO, I'd be fine if the "windows" were dark enough where you don't see interior; to keep cost down.
  10. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    If they can do it without getting a letter from Rivian. Not familiar with that company... more familiar with Spyder out of Taiwan (who is responsible more much of the aftermarket headlights out there, some not so good).
  11. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Looks to be 275/60R20 Not chrome. Combination of paint and machined features that are then clear coated. Chrome plating is time consuming, energy intensive and toxic.
  12. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Exactly. Visually slimmer, without being physically slimmer. [correction] not a NACS plug.
  13. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    It helps, but still not as effective as a heated headlight.
  14. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    Pickup tomorrow - no guide yet!

    Guides are mostly yesterday’s news. Don’t expect one. You’ll get contact from delivery specialist at Eastvale. Beyond that, you’ll be dealing with corporate customer service on issues as well as Eastvale staff. If delivery doesn’t change, gather all your questions to ask at delivery. Or call the...
  15. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    You realize he was joking? poking fun at the speculative fever?
  16. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Just choice of words. No offense, a reaction to that is perhaps too far into weeds as well. Light bar does show to be sculpted like R2/3. And when I read the list of updates, I thought of adaptive lighting tech, which is different from the automatic high beam we currently have. Inconclusive, but...
  17. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    California FS: Satin Black Emblems for Rivian R1T Black with Yellow Highlights

    The logic at the time was to follow scheme of original, only replacing chrome for black. Rear factory badges never had yellow accents. Then due to demand the sides and hood became all black, including the horizontal bar under the R1 at the back.
  18. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Remember what’s been said of R1: flagship. Can’t have lower, less expensive models lead the way. I predict R1 will also get the new style UI before R2 deliveries. Refresh will be MY25. R2 deliveries will start in ‘26. Other OEMs also start work on updates long before the public is aware. We’re...
  19. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Yes. Cosmetic only. Common in the car industry for some mid-cycle updates, same body panels, slight tweaks to headlights, to bring legacy offerings more in line with newer products.
  20. UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan

    New R1 Refresh (R1S) Spotted in most revealing look yet! [Updated w/ New Plant Photos 5/29/24]

    Not at all. Pre and post refresh R1 will share body parts (around the light bar). Between refreshed R1, 2 and 3, the similarity is in design language only—light bar with 3D faceted features instead of one featureless slab of the OG R1. This way they produce only one style of front body parts for...


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