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Shill2801
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Hola folks… glad to be a part of the fam as of last week.
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Any interest in tackling the Trans Wisconsin Adventure Trail? I did this on motorcycles a few years ago but now want to try it in a vehicle. Plan would be to camp along the way. Link for the motorcycle route is attached but it gives some idea of route: http://transwisconsintrail.com/wordpress/
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R1 EVY
Hey Wisconsin Rivian owners, I was thinking about doing a Milwaukee meetup on a Saturday or Sunday and wanted to gauge interest.

@Ilovejunebugs @Citrinite
  1. Saturday June 22nd or Sunday 23rd?
  2. Late morning or early afternoon
  3. Lake front (Veterans Park area or close)
Let me know your availability, feedback and questions, then we can finalize things. I'm looking forward to connecting with everyone!

-Darren
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Hey All, next weekend I'll be heading to the Tigerton OHV off-road park on Sunday. May 5th. They have dirt trails for ATVs / dirt bikes, and regular off road trails. There are vehicle size and weight restrictions per their website, but I called ahead and they said it's cool, not too heavy or too large for their trails. They mentioned there are some tight turns on the trails. Last time I went off-road, I made some 3pt, 5pt, even 7pt turns and all was well. (Im in an R1T, id imagine an R1S wouldn't have such a problem with its shorter wheelbase) If anyone else is free and wants to get muddy, come on by!
https://www.tigertonwi.com/atv-trails
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Rivifan
Whelp. The park was beautiful. We made camp just before the rain came, then decided to head out once it cleared. so it pretty wet out there. It was cool seeing the dirt bikes flyin in the air and all. And the main trail - The Outer Loop- was great. Toughest part about it was on the straightaways, not putting it in Rally Mode and smashing down the accelerator. It was their Level 1 trail. So easy in fact that I got cocky. My inner idiot wanted to come out and play, so i decided to take it on a level 3 trail, the Sunday Drive (sounded innocent enough)
So... yeah. I got 'er stuck. All was going great for a while on that trail, it was handling puddles, climbs, drops, logs, went over a rough rock patch or two, all with no problems at all. and then about 3/4 the way through the trail i saw this turn and drop and thought no way i can make that if i dont know how deep that puddle is, plus it's too steep of a drop, I'll tear up the rear bumper. Tried to turn around and that was my downfall. So my guys went out looking for help as I stayed with Gandy (trucks name) They found this group on ATVs / side-by-sides who, upon asking them for help replied, "Fuck yeah! we specialize in gettin shit un-stuck!".
And boy did they. Trail Angels. They showed up all confident they'd get me out. (which was a great morale boost) Clearly not their first rodeo as they worked as a team with two winches at different angles, (so glad the front tow hooks held) and telling me when to gas and where to steer and slowly but surely climbed back up and out, and on my merry way. Whole process once they started probably took half hour, maybe an hour. I took some video while they were working, ill have to see if any of that turned out ok.
And just as they had me pretty much out, the trail rescue Jeep guy showed up, we all had a laugh at that.
They came over to our campsite for some beers that night, and when I told them how heavy the truck is, they were kinda surprised the winches held...
Would have been a different experience w/out them.

And in my defense, was chatting with the rescue guy later that day, he couldn't make it up the part I got stuck going down. Said they need to rethink the level 3 grade on that one.

So overall I highly recommend it, Outer Loop Trail is no problem, and I think there were a couple level 2 trails in there, that, if the conditions are drier, could probably be handled by those with some skill and bravery.

But it was the most expensive charge I've ever paid for. $50 per night for a campsite with power. And of course it was a 15amp or 30amp option, not 50amp, so I used the super slow low voltage version. Oh well, learning experience. Still got a few points of juice each night. Ill be searching for a proper adapter to keep around for future reference.
R1 EVY
R1 EVY
I'm going there next month based on your review.
Rivifan
Great to hear! Let us know how it goes. (Especially if you brave anything wilder than the outer loop trail :) )
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It looks like new WI law allowing per kw pricing has enabled Tesla update Super Charger pricing. They changed from a per minute pricing structure to per kwh.
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Wisconsin is one of only two states that have laws that prevent acceptance of the federal funds to put EV charging in place. A bill was passed in the Wisconsin Senate to change that law so the funds could be accessed. The Senate bill was forwarded to the assembly. There are two bills in the Wisconsin assembly that are similar to the Senate bill AB846 and AB847 but were just tabled so it looks like progress on passing them has stalled. Please write, call or email your Assembly Representative to let them know we need to move forward with EV charging in Wisconsin.

The Wisconsin law prohibits anyone other than a utility company from selling electrical power by the kWh.

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Dennis
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Shill2801
By a 5-2 vote the Rivian Service Center in Menomonee Falls has been approved. The Rivian Regional Manager estimated that it will be open in July/August. Excellent news!
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R1 EVY
Is anyone else in Wisconsin on the Residential EV charger pilot program? I signed up for the low off-peak rates but was wondering if anyone else has been on it?
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mrodriguez
Is there a lower rate than the off hour rate? The program looks like it’s charger specific but maybe I’m wrong. If there is some other benefit or lower rate I’m all for it.
R1 EVY
R1 EVY
1. It is charger specific, so you have to buy their charger or lease it.
2. There are three rates (on-peak, intermediate peak, and off-peak.
3. The rates will pay for the charger.
Shill2801
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Citrinite
If I can make it I’ll be there
Shill2801
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Here are the highlights (per ChatGPT4)

The document contains several mentions of Rivian, providing information about their operations, plans, and vehicles. Key points include:

1. Production and Deliveries: Rivian, based in Irvine, California, started manufacturing electric vehicles (EVs) in 2021. They have produced 82,584 vehicles in the U.S. and delivered 71,374 to customers. Rivian sells two models of pick-up trucks and SUVs to the general public and supplies commercial delivery vans to companies, including Amazon.com, which holds about a 17% stake in Rivian.

2. Service Center in Menomonee Falls, WI: Rivian plans to operate a service center at Menomonee Falls, WI. This center will service both consumer and commercial vehicles, including delivery vans used by Amazon.com.

3. Mission and Operations: Rivian's mission is to keep the world adventurous forever. Their operations involve producing all-electric adventure vehicles, offering a cleaner and quieter service experience with zero tailpipe emissions. Vehicles are pre-ordered online with a deposit.

4. Proposed Lease and Services Offered: Rivian intends to lease a portion of a property to operate this service center. The services at this location would include tire changing, wheel alignment, hardware replacement, windshield wiper fluid replacement, software updates, and pre-delivery inspections. They also plan to service Rivian Commercial Vans (RCVs), an electric delivery van model.

5. Job Creation and Investment: The Rivian center in Menomonee Falls is expected to create 35 full-time and 15 part-time jobs, representing a $1.6 million investment in new equipment and technology.

6. Community Engagement and Safety: Rivian is working with local emergency responders to ensure safety with their vehicles in emergency situations. They have published Emergency Response Guides for their vehicle models.

7. Battery Technology: Rivian's battery-electric vehicles are powered by lithium-ion cell battery systems, focusing on performance, energy, safety, charging, and durability. They have a Battery Management System (BMS) to monitor and enhance battery performance and safety.

8. Rezoning and Approval Process: The company has been seeking rezoning approval for the Menomonee Falls site to operate as an EV delivery and service center.

9. Local Impact and Future Plans: Rivian aims to be a valued member of the Menomonee Falls community, focusing on using the site as a service and delivery center for their electric vehicles. They have no plans to manufacture batteries at this location.
Shill2801
Newbie here. Picked up my R1S a few weeks back.
I park and plug in my garage and preheat the vehicle. I do only drive about 17 miles to work and mix of highway and roads. I am only averaging 1.4-1.5 miles/kwH or max 200 miles of total full charge range.
I realize there are a ton of variables involved with range and this is just driving in standard mode.
Just curious if others are experiencing similar efficiency with our temperatures and driving conditions as this seems really low.
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Aiks Riv
Thank you all so much! Makes me feel better. Had no idea preconditioning came from the battery vs the charger so excited to hear that might be fixed down the road. Other than the range I am loving the vehicle
Craigins
Craigins
Another thing you can do, about an hour or so before you leave (depending on how you are charging) bump of the charging limit to start charging the vehicle. Having the vehicle charge for an hour should help warm up the battery before going out into the cold.

That being said, the heater will also kill your efficiency. I usually get around 2.2 mi/kWh driving at 70. If i turn on the heater it will drop below 2. I typically only use the heater to defog the windshield when it fogs up though.

Pretty much all vehicles need to warm up. You just notice it more with the EVs since you have more detailed fuel consumption data and are paying attention to it. My old prius used to be terrible in the winter with my short commute.
R1 EVY
R1 EVY
I just drove 204 miles on a preconditioned 100% charge (400 max pack) and should've been around 49% upon completion.

Adjusting for cold temps, with 20% loss, that would put me at an anticipated 39% or 156 miles.

My actual was 33% or 133 miles. That's about a 25% loss for the trip. Granted, I drive like I'm actually trying to get somewhere, so I'm just tracking to see how it performs over time.

For the record, I'm glad I got the max pack because it saved me from having to stop along the way 😁.
DigitalFisher
Airport Parking in Madison

Has anyone left their Rivian at the airport for multiple days? There are some L2 chargers in the daily parking area. Is it normal to leave your EV plugged in for multiple days if a charger is available?

My other plan was to top up at the nearby EA at Walmart before I head to the airport.
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Rivifan
I've parked at ORD for a few days, just regular spot, no chargers there that I noticed. (Gary the gear guard caught no incidents thankfully) I would be wary of after charging idle fees if it were a paid charger, sitting inaccessible for that long.
Shill2801
FYI - Looks like the Electrify America charging station at Meijer in Howard (just outside of Green Bay) is FINALLY open. That opens up a lot of of the north east side of the state for us (especially Door County). Looking forward to trying it out in a few weeks!
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Has anyone rotated tires yet? I was a little over 5k and thought the timing was right. I reached out to service and they can do a mobile but with the 20’s they indicated 9k miles. The 21 and 22 was 7,500 miles for what it’s worth. They also indicated they have now partnered with Discount Tire and Tire Rack and they should have the equipment to handle the Rivian. The only discount tire is out in Waukesha. Also interestingly my service work order was quoted at $0.00 which seemed odd. I assume I’d have to pay. I surely would if I was going to discount. Either way just curious what others have done.
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Rivifan
Had mine rotated (no balance) at Discount tire in Palatine IL for free. Another time i asked nicely to the mobile service tech and he rotated them while fixing something else. Do yourself a huge favor as i did per the suggestion from someone else on this site and go to your autoparts store and get a tire thread gauge. Fronts are likely to wear faster than the rears, so check periodically, and rotate accordingly.
Nolf
I'm at 10K and haven't rotated yet. I suppose I should. I have a service appointment in Chicago in a couple of weeks and was hoping to see if they could do it there then.
Shill2801
Shill2801
I just had mine rotated/balanced again at Discount Tire and they didn't charge me at all. At 13,275 miles after 7 months, tire tech said he would rate the tires at an 8 out of 10 at the moment. Unless our driving habits radically change I hope we can get 30K miles out of the OEM Pirelli 22s.
I'm planning an upcoming drive from MKE to St. Louis. Has anyone does this drive? Any suggestions on charging stops?
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Citrinite
Thank you. It sounds like the EA in Normal worked well?
Craigins
Craigins
use plugshare to check the status the day before and the day of the trip just to make sure all stations are up and running. I've made the trip from Chicago burbs down to St. Louis. There isn't much in terms of charging in central IL, I did have to wait about 15 min at the Walmart EA station to charge.
Citrinite
The drive went smoothly. Only had one issue with one station where it derated due to plug temp. However that was on a 150 kw unit when all the 350s where occupied. The truck could have made it from MKE to STL with one stop from 100% charge (in Bloomington) but we opted for a second short break/charge. That said it wasn't that cold outside (in the 40s).
What’s everyone’s best efficiency? Warm weather (but not too hot) is great. Windows down, about 35 mph, high ride height on all purpose, 20inch wheels, and a very lazy acceleration. This is just driving around town Tosa-Brookfield-Tosa.

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Anyone in here have running boards or rock sliders installed on their T or S? If so, did you do install yourself and which brand did you go with?
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Shill2801
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mrodriguez
@Shill2801 that’s where I’m leaning as well. I’m interested in the installation difficulty and if I should look outside of the RMaxx. I think my wife is going to be very annoyed if I don’t throw some on soon enough. I wish Rivian had their own. Side note I feel like the R1S gets a lot less love from Rivian than the T.
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Nolf
I bought the rock sliders from evsportsline but don't have them yet (R1S) - I have a great relationship with Detail Doctors in Milwaukee since I spent a grip there (stealth, debadge, chrome delete, ceramic, tint...) and will look to them to install if I get stuck. I have the all the recommended tools so want to give it a go myself first
mrodriguez
@Nolf did you get your sliders yet and install? I ordered RMAXX sliders but it’s a Feb back order date right now. Looked simple enough.
Shill2801
Had my first "oh sh*t, we're going to run out of charge" experience yesterday coming back home from visiting my folks up near Wausau. We charged at the Electrify America station in Schofield, had about 20-30 extra miles of range (beyond the 176 we needed to get home) on the guess-o-meter when we started, but the wind was fighting us the entire way. Averaged roughly 1.85 kwh/mile on the way home, ended up reducing speed to 69-70 mph to try and squeeze as much out of the battery as possible, but the wind proved too much and we had to make an emergency stop in Hartford to charge at the Festival Foods for nearly 2 hours so we had enough charge to get home.

3 big lessons learned:
  1. Check the wind direction every time! I usually do a good job of checking the direction of the wind by looking at flags near the highway, but I really need to look into it ahead of time to assist with planning.
  2. It's worth overcharging the battery more than needed for these longer trips. I need to not be penny foolish, my time is worth more than the $5 if would have cost to charge the battery up to 80%.
  3. Have better "emergency" stop locations mapped out in both directions. North bound I know of a few places I can stop, but I never looked into southbound along 41. If I I had I would have known of a decent charger in Fond Du Lac near the Target/Walmart that would have been a much better option than the 6 kwh charger at Festival Foods (but we were sharing with a Bolt, so only getting 3 kwh).
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Rivifan
Great updates, and great to hear you made it back! I had a similar experience heading down 39 yesterday omw to the Madison EA station. FWIW, i've just started tracking factors effecting my range, and i think 50mph is considerably more efficient than 70+. Haven't fully crunched the #s yet, so don't quote me, but ill post results on the site here when i do.
Shill2801
Shill2801
@Rivifan In my own experience on county highways vs the interstate 55-60 mph is much better for efficiency than 70-75 mph. I feel like going too slow on the interstate isn't particularly safe, though. People driving 30 mph faster is a terrifying experience.
Rivifan
Agreed, i was this close to turning on my hazards... was my first time going down to single digit battery %, ill probably be more brazen next time.
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Nolf
I just assume I will need to make a stop with some in the tank - I am not into checking wind, making a bunch of calculations, etc. I just drive and 10K miles in and that seems to work fine. I've been in my garage at 2% before lol.
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Shill2801
Heyo, Im back with some updates from the Byron off-roading park, I said id post pics if i didn't embarrass myself, which I did not :)

Recap, for anyone interested-
I was the only Rivian there... I showed up and parked in kneel mode, owner was like, you wont even make it on the easy trail. Went in off-road mode in highest suspension and he's like, ok, yeah that will work :)

3 trails, easy, moderate, and hard. And a practice area with mud pit, mud rut, and some practice hills. Easy trail goes on the motorcross track, and is pretty easy, kinda wish they would allow us to go faster on it, but better they didn't :)

Moderate trail was through the woods, some nice steep hills and turns and pretty technical terrain. Gandy (thats my R1Ts nae) handled the pitches and hills flawlessly, but looking back im not sure how i got out of there w/out a scratch. There were several 3,5, & 7pt turns with the long wheelbase on the R1T.

It was suggested I might struggle on the hard trail, so I did not attempt... this time :)

Pics below are not the best, I apologize or that, but gives you a sense of the mudpit / mud rut practice area, and on the easy motorcross course. No pics on the moderate trail as we were all on the edge of our seats snaking through the woods avoiding body damage and trying to remember to breathe.

As you can see in the last pic, some of the jeeps jumped up the hills and got some airtime. No, I was not so brave :D

And it did occur to me, after I got home, that i could have turned on the dashcam with the simple push of a button to get much, much better footage.
Next time!

And yes, that sand/clay/whateveritis tan mud was very, very hard to remove. Had to hose it down forever before even going to the carwash. But so worth it!
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The dashcam, while not ideal, does provide some neat footage. I used it several times at Road America to record portions of my drive on the track.

Thanks for the follow-up!
Shill2801
Shill2801
Great pictures! And glad to hear Gandy handled the course well. Get some air time next time :-D
Hey All, the Byron Motor Sports Park in Byron, IL (just SW of Rockford) is a motorcross park that has 4x4 days a few times a year. The last one for this year will be this Saturday night and Sunday 10/14-10/15. Overnight camping is available.

On Sunday, registration starts at 8, course opens at 9.

Only vehicle requirements are 34” wheels minimum. If you are new to off-roading as I am, they said there will be trail lead guides, and they have easy, moderate, and advanced courses.



Details on their website and FB page:

http://motobyron.com/

https://www.facebook.com/ByronMotosportsPark



im hopin to show up all those Jeeps with my fancy electric pickup 😃 😃

If I don’t embarrass myself, ill post some pics here later 😃

See you Sunday!
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Shill2801
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I like the idea of doing the T.W.A.T, our R1T has the 22s so I need to look into something beefier if I wanted to do anything more difficult than that.
riv1an
Hey, was great to chat at the charger in Rockford last Sunday morning... how did the off-roading go?
Rivifan
Hey, yes, thnx, and same! Hope you guys kicked butt and had fun at the tourney! Off-roading was a blast!! ill post some pics, looks like i have to start a new thread here to do so.
Shill2801
Sounds like the Electrify America station in Schofield is now open! A couple reports on Plugshare of people using it already. Now eagerly waiting for the one in Howard to open as well.
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mrodriguez
Nice! We are going to be up in Minocqua in November so that stop might come in handy.
1344petersj
Schofield Electrify America station works like a dream! Just tested it out 10/20/23. Now just waiting for Howard (Green Bay Area).
mrodriguez
How would you guys manage Minocqua? I'm staying up there in a few weeks at a VRBO rental, but I'm not sure if they have the ability to charge there. There are not really a lot of charge options up there. Does it make sense to just charge up to 100% at Schofield on the way up and hit it up again on the way down? We are heading up there on the 16th and driving back on Monday the 20th, but will be driving around the area for hikes and what not. I wish we had access to Tesla supercharges already, that would solve a lot of problems.
Shill2801
Shill2801
@mrodriguez I think that would be your best bet. Looks like it's roughly 150 miles from EA charger to Minocqua, so that should leave you enough to drive around in the area without too much range anxiety.

When I did a summer trip up to Tomahawk (before the EA station was open) we charged up at the MREA in Custer on the way up and the way back. The other options I looked at was the Rhinelander Chevrolet Buick Dealership, or the Prentice Truck and Travel. Both are a bit out of your way, though.


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