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I don't think I've ever seen a comment here that amuses me more than this one.
Since I never did that I asked to be shown where I supposedly did and got back the following as an example of "just one" place
Thus it appears that the problem is in not understanding what "directly proportional" and "inversely proportional" mean. What those terms mean is that the charge time is obtained by multiplying Wh/mi by a "proportionality constant" or dividing a proportionality constant by MPGe. As as formula
Thus the whole brewhaha has stemmed on misinterpretation of what I said apparently stemming, in turn, from my use of unfamiliar terminology.
As I never said what it is supposed I said and have consistently said what I did say over and over again trying to make the basic principle clear it is plain that I did not ever contradict myself that I know of. If anyone finds a place tell me and I'll fix it. I have already added some clarification words to the post cited here.
Now that I hope things are maybe clear do you wish to continue to give this bad advice to new users? They can very well use MPGe to estimate charging rates with the formulas in this post. Do you disagree with them? If so why?
And how does that explain this?
Comparing 65 MPGe (WAG for a R1S or an example, your pick) to the 90 MPGe of a Tesla Model X gives the relative charge time of?
With the addition of the conditional statement you added, yes.
This is my current explanation as to why you keep erroneously accusing me of claiming that one can determine charge rate from MPGe alone.
How does the fact that you misinterpreted one of my staements or why you misinterpreted it explain another of my statements? It doesn't. They aren't really connected except in the sense that whereas you didn't grasp the concept of proportionality in the first instance you wouldn't appreciate that someone doing the comparisons would use the same principle in this particular case to whit:
Ceteris paribus the Model X would charge 90/65 = 18/13 times faster than the S because it goes 90 miles on the energy in a gallon of gas whereas an S only goes 65.
SHOW ME WHERE I EVER SAID IT WAS!!!!!!!!!
E pluribus unum
The "yes" says that you wish to continue with this position but the conditional clause seems to imply you don't. ??
No, absolutely not. The factors are of equal importance. A 10% error in either will result in a 10% error in the estimated charge rate. I'm not saying that the maximum charge rate the car can accept (AC and DC) isn't important to know. It is equally important but in actual life it usually turns out (I should add in my experience) that it is the available charger that determines the charge rate rather than what the car can accept. Turns out the taper characteristics don't make that much difference as is easily seen by simulating some charging sessions with different rates of taper. I've published the results of such simulations on the CT site.
I watched this last night. As a non-EV owner atm, it showed me what folks have been talking about in terms of issues. It also reaffirms how important it is for Rivian to remove friction here. Cool stuff. Also, the Porsche looked interesting, but made me realize I want a truck way more than a sports car, heh.
How about we continue to post information relevant to what new drivers can expect on road trips when they take delivery of their trucks whether it satisfies anyone's confimation biases or not?
2 hours?!? I can't invest that much time to watch...what are your key takeaways @Mjhirsch78 & @RivianXpress ?
I used 2 EA stations this weekend, both at Walmarts and they were right off the freeway. I suppose in some small towns there may be some distance, but there are always restaurants near the Walmarts as well. In fact while in Flagstaff I ate dinner while charging and the freeway was visible from the chargers and from the restaurant. One of the goals of EA is to also make sure there are amenities near the chargers.
